December 4, 2008

Taking Mind-Games to Heart

Filed under: Complications, Emotional Rollercoaster — Tags: — Lee Ann @ 9:00 am

Autonomic neuropathy can manifest itself in many different ways. It affects the autonomic nervous system, which is the nerves that regulate the things we don’t have control over, processes like digestion, sexual response, and heart function. Not to be confused with peripheral neuropathy, the neuropathy we’re systematically taught to fear because that can lead to amputations. Maybe it’s different with the internet now, but when I was younger, information about all the heinous things that diabetes can bring wasn’t so readily available. That being the case, I didn’t learn about anything more than the basic 3, retinopathy, nephropathy and (peripheral) neuropathy until autonomic neuropathy was actually affecting me at age 24, which is how I’ve learned about far too many diabetes complications. I have had some comparatively minor digestive issues, but I’ll spare you the gory details of that today.

The primary manifestation of autonomic neuropathy that I’ve experienced is rapid heart rate. I take a beta-blocker because my heart is too fast, and the beta-blocker slows it down so it isn’t working as hard as it would otherwise. Supposedly, I’ll get more mileage out of it since I take this medication. For anyone out there who’s reading this and either isn’t managing their diabetes or is at risk for such, consider this a valid reason to manage your BG’s. I could’ve avoided this, but I’m a painfully slow learner. Seriously, you can avoid this crap.

Because I take this beta-blocker, stress tests have taken on a double meaning. If you aren’t familiar with a stress test, they hook you up to a bunch of leads to find out how your heart responds to increased activity. They put you on a treadmill, and you start out slow, but the pace increases. They can also increase the incline so you’re running fast and going uphill. They make you run until your heart reaches a certain rate, then you stop, and they monitor you to make sure you don’t drop dead. The problem is, my heart doesn’t reach that optimal rate because I have the beta-blocker pulsing through my veins, and that makes it hard to get accurate results. Not a fun time, in my humble opinion. Since I’m a klutz with an aversion to exercise, especially running, I very naturally suck at this test, and frankly, would rather have back-to-back appointments with the gynecologist and the dentist, who I dread almost as much as Kerri. Unfortunately, that hasn’t been offered as an alternative to treadmill torture.

I think I’ve taken stress tests, or at least attempted to do so on four separate occasions. One time I did the stress test, and they just stopped me when I told them I was about to die. They used what data they had even though my heart never reached the threshold. The next time I tried it, my BG went low right after I started so of course, I had to stop. All the staff involved seemed annoyed as they had gotten me all hooked up, had taken the baseline readings, etc., and then it turned out to be a waste because I barely got started. The next time I had a stress test, I had an alternative procedure done, a nuclear stress test. I don’t recall the specifics to be honest because this was maybe 4 years ago. They gave me some chemical intravenously, and took pictures using this machine that reminded me of a combination x-ray-MRI machine. The chemical is supposed to cause a physical response similar to that of exercise. That test went alright as I recall, but I think the results of that procedure are considered inferior to the standard treadmill routine.

The last time I had a stress test, it was much like the first time, but I went to a new cardiologist. I got on the treadmill, and when I told them I was about to die, they had me stop. I came back a few days later to talk to the doctor, and he said the results showed that my heart is fine, but I couldn’t believe he had enough data to be able to tell me that conclusively. I think it’s now been either two or three years since that last test, and I’m pretty sure I haven’t gotten any cards in the mail that say, “Dear Lee Ann, We’ve missed you, so stop on by before your heart stops.” I figure I’m due to get another one so I might go back to the first place I went, but I really don’t know what the best thing to do is. I don’t trust the results of any of these tests because it’s impossible to get my heart to the right rate to get the necessary data. It seems like regardless of what I do, I can’t find peace of mind on this issue.

Because of all this, when I come across news like Diabetic Women More Likely to Die After Heart Attack, I’m instantly in freak-out mode. The logical part of me knows better than to read about one study and jump to conclusions, but the illogical part of me, which often has a slight advantage over the logical part, is in a state of out-right fear. There are already so many scary things about diabetes, and I try to filter it out or dilute it as best as I can, but it’s hard to push aside that information and the feelings it can evoke on a consistent basis. Sometimes, some of it, especially on the topics that are scariest to each of us, makes it past the mental barricade, panic ensues and the floodgates open.

I then start to lose my sense of what’s rational or not. While it feels like the anxiety is irrational, the fact is we’re obviously at risk for various problems, cardiovascular issues included. My heart is already affected by neuropathy so I’m not exactly a step ahead of that game, and articles like the one cited don’t offer any reassurance. It’s possible I’d be better off if I didn’t read articles like that, but how realistic is that? As counter-intuitive as it might seem, it makes me wonder if it’s the optimist, so facilely able to filter out the doom-and-gloom thoughts, who’s really the irrational one. I don’t know what the answer is, or if there is one, but I know diabetes can be as much a subjective mind game as it is objective number-crunching, weighing and measuring, and I often feel like the former is far more work than the latter.

7 Comments »

  1. Lee Ann, thank you for talking about this.

    I too think it is something that is not widely known to many of us, newbie or veteran.

    It sounds like taking the beta-blocker prevents the heart rate from increasing, which is kind of necessary when exercising. I can see how that would make you feel like shit with even low to moderate exercise.

    From what I understand this can also cause problems with the counter regulatory hormones that let you know when your blood sugar is low. Do you feel when your BG’s are low?

    I would love to post up a quick blurb on my blog directing folks over here to read about this. Are you Ok with that?

    Comment by Scott K. Johnson — December 4, 2008 @ 11:26 am

  2. Hi Lee Ann, definitely a good post on a topic I don’t read much about.

    Re: the types of stress tests, I asked my father-in-law’s cardiologist about the
    treadmill version vs. the “chemical” version, and they said for me they
    would recommend the chemical version…something about it allowing them
    see more than w/ the treadmill version. Maybe you can just opt for that and
    avoid the treadmill alltogether.

    After having some chest pains and feeling of racing heart a few years ago,
    I had the treadmill version. After they wired me up, they had me sit down for
    a few minutes before I ever started because my heart rate was already over 100. Also, in spite of
    being a runner for the past few years, I have not seen much improvement in my
    resting or exercising heart rate like other people report. Kinda makes me wonder.

    Comment by Carol — December 4, 2008 @ 11:58 am

  3. What a great post. I have heard a little about this type of neuropathy but not enough. I have peripheral neuropathy in my feet and my concern is, do I have more of a chance of developing autonomic neuropathy because of that or not?

    I worry about everything.

    Great post and thanks Scott for posting about it too.

    LeeAnn, you are awesome BTW.

    Comment by George — December 4, 2008 @ 5:31 pm

  4. LeeAnn,
    Thanks for this post. As a woman, a diabetic and a heart patient, I can tell you that you’re taking a step that most women don’t. Most women ignore their heart issues. Women don’t suffer the same types of symptoms that men do. A female heart attack sufferer may have no symptoms or mild symptoms like nausea or back pain. I take a beta-blocker as well as have an implanted cardiac device keeping my heart rate in check. Keep after it, its worth the effort to live longer and healthier.

    Comment by Kim Black — December 13, 2008 @ 3:49 am

  5. Thanks for talking about this. I also take a beta blocker and have for years. When I
    When I have treadmill stress tests or the adenosine (chemical) stress tests
    I am asked to discontinue the beta blocker for a day or two before the
    procedure. I’ve had the test you had (chemical), another using MRI, and several
    treadmills followed immediately by echocardiogram. I’ve had Type 1 for 45
    years. I appreciate so much when people like you and Scott talk about the
    real issues–

    Comment by Barbara — December 31, 2008 @ 5:23 pm

  6. Thanks for sharing your personal experience about neuropathy. You are helping people with this beautiful blog of yours. Keep posting. . .

    Comment by Foot Neuropathy — January 6, 2009 @ 5:26 am

  7. LeeAnn — if you are on beta blockers, a treadmill stress test may not be a useful diagnostic. When I had a stress test done when I was on atenolol, in addition to the radioactive tracers, I was given an adrenaline injection to hike up my heart rate to the required level. It had two effects besides the diagnostic one: a panic attack (couldn’t feel myself breathe) with much delayed departure of the adrenaline from the system, and elevated blood glucose levels for the rest of the day.

    Comment by tmana — May 22, 2009 @ 2:35 pm

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